In this episode of the Wunder Mobility Podcast, Gunnar Froh speaks with Lukas Neckermann, a long-standing voice in the mobility revolution who coined the very term over a decade ago.

Lukas reflects on how his original thesis—built around three zeros: zero emissions, zero accidents, and zero ownership—has held up against a decade of industry turbulence. From early optimism to the current pushback against electrification and autonomy, the conversation traces the arc of an industry caught between legacy structures and radical transformation.

They explore why the automotive industry is resisting change, how globalization is being re-evaluated in the wake of shifting geopolitical dynamics, and what it means for European mobility companies navigating relationships with both US and Chinese players. Lukas argues that despite the complexity, Europe has a unique window of opportunity—particularly in autonomous mobility, where public transport operators and fleet-focused startups are emerging as serious contenders.

The discussion turns practical with a look at where the real business opportunities lie: fleet management, maintenance infrastructure, and the operational expertise that successful car sharing operators already bring to the table. Lukas makes the case that we're still on page one of a much longer story—and that the next chapters will be shaped by those willing to build rather than wait.

The episode closes with the growing ecosystem of events designed to connect the people shaping mobility's next phase.

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Erscheinungs­datum: 31.3.2026, 16:00:00