Dr. Joe Tafur and Natasha Pentin sat down with Roman Palitsky M.Div. PhD., Director of Research Projects for Emory Spiritual Health. He’s also Assistant Professor in the Department of Psychiatry and Behavioral Science and faculty in the Emory Center for Psychedelics and Spirituality.

We discuss Spiritual, Existential, Religious, and Theological (SERT) experiences around psychedelics, how some religious people understand and experience psychedelics (the Mosaic Initiative), spiritual health practitioners and chaplains, post-psychedelic challenges, and more. 

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More information about Roman: 

Emory University website 

If you’ve had a challenging experience with psychedelics or meditation, please consider participating in the two studies Roman is working on mentioned in the podcast. 

Psychedelic Challenges: https://www.psychedelicchallenges.org/ 

Meditation Challenges: https://www.meditationchallenges.org/ 

Importance of Integrating Spiritual, Existential, Religious, and Theological Components in Psychedelic-Assisted Therapies: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37256584/ 

Timestamps: (00:00) Modern Spirit Intro

(01:19) Guest Introduction: Roman Palitsky

(02:28) MAPS 2023 & Meeting at Berkeley Program

(05:03) Science on Spiritual Health (SOS) Conference

(07:16) Understanding SERT

(13:14) Spirituality and Psychedelics

(22:10) Challenging Spiritual & Religious Dynamics 

(30:52) Measurement-Based Care

(32:36) The Mosaic Initiative - Religious Perspectives on Psychedelic Experiences

(35:20) Exploring Psychedelic Use in the Jewish Community

(37:47) Addressing Post-Psychedelic Challenges

(41:00) The Role of Spiritual Health Practitioners & Chaplains

(49:31) End-of-Life and Psychedelics

(54:50) Alternative Paths to Altered States

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Erscheinungs­datum: 2.12.2025, 19:26:28